php - Laravel 5 - why is input empty when returning with errors? -

i have form submits controller, validates data. if validation fails redirects input , errors. method deals form submission:

<?php namespace app\http\controllers;  use illuminate\http\request; use app\models\user;  class usercontroller extends controller {      /**      * create new user.      *      * @param reqeust       $request      *      * @return void      */     public function postcreate(request $request)     {         $user = new user;         $rules = $user->rules();         $rules['password'] = 'required|confirmed|min:8';         $v = \validator::make($request->except('_token', 'roles'), $rules);         if ($v->fails())         {             return redirect()->back()->withinput($request->except('_token', 'password', 'password_confirmation'))->witherrors($v);         }         $user->fill($request->except('_token', 'password', 'password_confirmation'));         $user->password = \hash::make($request->input('password'));         $user->save();          return redirect()->route('webmanaccounts')->with('messages', [['text' => 'user account created', 'class' => 'alert-success']]);     } 

on page displays form check see if name, 1 of fields, present , if populate user object data. problem input empty.

<?php namespace backend;  use illuminate\http\request; use illuminate\support\facades\request requestfacade; use app\http\controllers\controller; use app\models\role; use app\models\user;  class usercontroller extends controller {      public function __construct(request $request)     {         if ( ! $request->user()->can('accounts'))         {             return abort(403, 'you not have permission access page.');          }     }      /**      * display create new user form , process error messages.      *      * @param reqeust       $request      *      * @return view      */     public function create(request $request)     {         $user = new user;         dump(requestfacade::all());         if (requestfacade::has('name'))         {             $user->fill(requestfacade::except('_token', 'roles'));             foreach (requestfacade::only('roles') $role)             {                 $user->roles()->add($role);             }         }         return view('backend.user.create', ['title' => 'website manager :: create new account', 'user' => $user, 'roles' => role::all()]);     } 

i have tried requestfacade, $request , input, show empty. why isn't data being passed back?

to add strangeness of this, have project uses identical code , works fine. why work fine 1 project not another!?

when use withinput() method, data flashed session "old" data.

$request->old() should give array of "old" data.

$request->old('name') should give "old" name data.